LISTSERVs and NEWSGROUPS LISTSERVs and NEWSGROUPS
A newsgroup is a public conference/bulletin board around the world just like SLC Online or Cuisine are public conferences/bulletin boards on NoblesNet, our First Class Bulletin Board at Nobles. There are thousands of newsgroups. We choose to subscribe to some of them and the data flows into NoblesNet. In contrast to a LISTSERV which goes to individual e-mailboxes around the world, a NEWSGROUP is a bulletin board.
What is sometimes confusing is that some LISTSERVs are electronic magazines that take all the new postings from a certain NEWSGROUP over a week or month and send them out to subscribers as the LISTSERV's electronic magazine.
To subscribe to one of these lists, send mail to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.NET with the following command in the text (not the subject) of your message: SUBSCRIBE listname. Replace 'listname' with the exact name from the list
example Jazz Lovers' List
JAZZ-L
JAZZ-L@BROWNVM.BITNET
send a note to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.NET
leave the SUBJECT INFO blank; in the
body of the note, type SUBSCRIBE JAZZ-L you will get the Jazz Lover's List in
your mailbox free of charge when it gets updated every day, week or month; the
reference address is JAZZ-L@BROWNVM.BITNET but you don't use this when
subscribing or unsubscribing; you use this address to send your own contributions
to this magazine. How to unsubscribe? same instructions but type UNSUBSCRIBE
JAZZ-L on the message line.
The list managers are:
Marti Weston, Computer Coordinator, Georgetown Day School 4530 MacArthur Blvd. NW, Washington DC 20007 mweston@gds.org
Curt LIeneck, Director of Technology, Chicago Lab Schools.
To subscribe, send a message to listserv@listserv.syr.edu, leaving the subject blank (or an obligatory period if necessary). In the body of the message, just type SUBSCRIBE ISED-L Larry Bird, using your first and last name of course. Nothing else should appear in the message. Same instruction for signing off, except the command is SIGNOFF ISED-L Larry Bird. To send a note, you mail your note to ised-l@listserv.syr.edu
for more info (and the archives), the most direct route from Ed Siegfried, ISED-L co-manager, is posted on Milton's web pages
Please save this message for future reference, especially if this is the first time you are subscribing to an electronic mailing list. If you ever need to leave the list, you will find the necessary instructions below. Perhaps more importantly, saving a copy of this message (and of all future subscription notices from other mailing lists) in a special mail folder will give you instant access to the list of mailing lists that you are subscribed to. This may prove very useful the next time you go on vacation and need to leave the lists temporarily so as not to fill up your mailbox while you are away! You should also save the "welcome messages" from the list owners that you will occasionally receive after subscribing to a new list.
To send a message to all the people currently subscribed to the list, just send mail to ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU. This is called "sending mail to the list," because you send mail to a single address and LISTSERV makes copies for all the people who have subscribed. This address (ISED-L@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU) is also called the "list address." You must never try to send any command to that address, as it would be distributed to all the people who have subscribed. All commands must be sent to the "LISTSERV address," LISTSERV@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU. It is very important to understand the difference between the two, but fortunately it is not complicated. The LISTSERV address is like a FAX number that connects you to a machine, whereas the list address is like a normal voice line connecting you to a person. If you make a mistake and dial the FAX number when you wanted to talk to someone on the phone, you will quickly realize that you used the wrong number and call again. No harm will have been done. If on the other hand you accidentally make your FAX call someone's voice line, the person receiving the call will be inconvenienced, especially if your FAX then re-dials every 5 minutes. The fact that most people will eventually connect the FAX machine to the voice line to allow the FAX to go through and make the calls stop does not mean that you should continue to send FAXes to the voice number. People would just get mad at you. It works pretty much the same way with mailing lists, with the difference that you are calling hundreds or thousands of people at the same time, and consequently you can expect a lot of people to get upset if you consistently send commands to the list address.
You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF ISED-L" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU. You can also tell LISTSERV how you want it to confirm the receipt of messages you send to the list. If you do not trust the system, send a "SET ISED-L REPRO" command and LISTSERV will send you a copy of your own messages, so that you can see that the message was distributed and did not get damaged on the way. After a while you may find that this is getting annoying, especially if your mail program does not tell you that the message is from you when it informs you that new mail has arrived from ISED-L. If you send a "SET ISED-L ACK NOREPRO" command, LISTSERV will mail you a short acknowledgement instead, which will look different in your mailbox directory. With most mail programs you will know immediately that this is an acknowledgement you can read later. Finally, you can turn off acknowledgements completely with "SET ISED-L NOACK NOREPRO".
Following instructions from the list owner, your subscription options have been set to "REPRO" rather than the usual LISTSERV defaults. For more information about subscription options, send a "QUERY ISED-L" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU.
Contributions sent to this list are automatically archived. You can get a list of the available archive files by sending an "INDEX ISED-L" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU. You can then order these files with a "GET ISED-L LOGxxxx" command, or using LISTSERV's database search facilities. Send an "INFO DATABASE" command for more information on the latter.
This list is available in digest form. If you wish to receive the digested version of the postings, just issue a SET ISED-L DIGEST command.
More information on LISTSERV commands can be found in the LISTSERV reference card, which you can retrieve by sending an "INFO REFCARD" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU.
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